Ummm. I'd have to say yes to all of the above. Being a nice guy is kind of an aberrant, "mildly" pathological condition which is pretty counterproductive in this culture. Women will constantly tell you that Other Women are just dying to meet a guy like you. That's right, Other Women, not the one telling you that. They can't help it. Generations of social conditioning lead them to go after macho, self-centered men-of-action or even swaggering, bullying abusers. Of course, you will make an excellent confidante. You're neutral. Epicene. (Look it up.)

Well, I enjoy being nice. I also am capable of throwing a major fit. I'd rather putter around at house and yardwork than commit to a real job. I cook, clean, massage and pamper. Anyone know any lonely movie starlets looking for someone to hold down their multimillion dollar fort?

And I thought this thread was about the Alice Cooper song!

1) Nice guys finish last?
No, l don't think so. Nice guys get trapped in the idea that they will? A whole hell of a lot of them, yes.

2) Nice guys aren't attractive until around 35 years old.
ln a way, yeah. That's usually around the time women wise up and quit stripping on tabletops at the local diner and bailing their men out of jail. l jest, but sometimes it takes the women a minute to get a clue. And maybe at that point they're better at picking out the assholes and attracting the ones that aren't.

3) If you're not a dick, then perhaps you are impotent or bad for the gene pool.
Not at all. But l think that's a bit dramatic, to be perfectly honest. Or you're talking about the uberbitches that embarrass the hell out of the rest of us women.

4) Nice guys don't have square jaws and other physical attributes that women find attractive.
l've known and dated nice guys that came in all packages. l'd rather date a nonsquare-jawed nice guy than square-jawed dickwads. l think it's also worthwhile to point out that true confidence is always sexy, and if you really do appreciate yourself despite other expectations or opinions, it'll show. Knowing how to strike up an interesting and intelligent discussion comes naturally in this state, and that's often far more important than fleeting looks anyway.

5) Patience and accomodating behavior is seen as weakness and a vulnerability to exploit.
Ew, no. By the uberbitches, maybe. Patience is awesome. "Accommodating" can be easily mistaken as 'yes, dear, whatever you say', and the line between the two is fine, depending what it is you're accommodating and what your personal interpretation of that is. Neither seem weak behaviors to me, and the very last thing l'm looking to do is exploit someone's vulnerability. And frankly, l think it's an unfair line of thinking to impose on the general female populace. As another mentioned, paranoia, or the belief in certain circumstances being a particular way seems to reinforce the existing impression. Not to mention that bad experiences do not belong to an entire gender, only the ones that perpetuated it in the first place.

6) Nice guys end up in therapy where they are told how desirable they are.
LMAO!!! l hope not! The ideal response is to take the party somewhere else at that point. <g>

7) Nice guys get told by other women and usually the one they are involved with how other women would absolutely fall head-over-heels for such a 'gem' of a guy
Okay, l'll be honest. When l tell a nice guy l'm not attracted to that women would love him, l mean it. But often the reason I'M not attracted to him is because he's got the 'l'm nice but l'm bitter and my self esteem's in the shitter' syndrome. Most women, myself included, need a confident man. (Note: A confident man is one who doesn't always have to be sure of himself in order to like himself.) l know it's cliche, but it's true that if we don't dig ourselves first, it's harder for others to dig us. lf he's not confident enough for me, it doesn't change the fact that he's a great guy. And there are women out whose self confidence can benefit just as much as his can from a relationship with each other. l'm just not the right match based on my *own* personal needs and preferences. And in regards to nice guys, it's almost always his level of confidence.

8) Nice guys carry themselves like a target
A lot of them do. And that's their choice whether it's a smart one or not.

9) Nice guys are generally not too confident or comfortable thinking of himself as a sexual or romantic figure.
That seems to be a common trait, yes. And that's certainly a big part of how they are perceived.

10) It doesn't really matter because in the end, you still have to pay taxes and realize you'll have only a $4 social security benefit after retirement.
The question is, how do the answers affect the outcome? Do the questions look for a different response than the stereotype, or are they simply looking to confirm it?

1) Nice guys finish last?
A: It often seems that way, but justice often pulls a sucker punch. I've seen quite a few bad guys who always seemed to be on top end up in nasty divorces, or pulled under by debt or IRS audits.

2) Nice guys aren't attractive until around 35 years old?
A: Not a chance. I'm a nice guy, and I've been attractive most of my life.

3) If you're not a dick, then perhaps you are impotent or bad for the gene pool?
A: Boy, did you get out of bed on the wrong side today! Isn't it more likely taht the Nice Guy is looking for Miss Right?

4) Nice guys don't have square jaws and other physical attributes that women find attractive.
A: Wrong again. Nice guys have nice qualities that most women would kill to find in a man.

5) Patience and accomodating behavior is seen as weakness and a vulnerability to exploit.
A: Only in the wrong kind of partner. True, there are people who are willing to exploit those qualities (I had the misfortune to get involved with one), but patience is in short supply in the madcap pace of the Information Age, ande accomodating behavior is always a delight to find in someone else.

6) Nice guys end up in therapy where they are told how desirable they are.
A: Nope. Nice guys are taken aback by the news, but more often than not they think, "So, the world isn't quite as cynical as I'd feared!"

7) Nice guys get told by other women and usually the one they are involved with how other women would absolutely fall head-over-heels for such a 'gem' of a guy.
A: Yes, that is true!

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8) Nice guys carry themselves like a target.
A: Only if they want to. I carry myself like a gentleman, and in chat sites I use an 1894 book of etiquette as a conversational guide. My good manners have won me many friends, and baffle the Leetspeak types! It's actually a lot of fun, too!

9) Nice guys are generally not too confident or comfortable thinking of himself as a sexual or romantic figure.
A: Only in the sense that Nice Guys don't like to think of themselves that way. A truly nice guy has humility, and sees the Adonis or Narcissus-type guys as lotharios, and doesn't want to be seen as that shallow.

10) It doesn't really matter because in the end, you still have to pay taxes and realize you'll have only a $4 social security benefit after retirement.
A: Actually, considering how bad the social security situation and inflation potential is in this country, $4 might not pay for a cup of coffee by 2010. As for taxes, even politicians who lie and cheat and steal every day have to pay taxes! It's one of the few constants in this chaotic universe we call home.